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Tiger

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2014, 02:51:41 PM »
Crompton saying no connection between wanting BBC coverage on raid before Rotherham hit headlines.

 BBC were advised not to turn up at raid before 9.30, Crompton admits that it was naive to be surprised that they were there well before that!! Police did not know about helicopter..

Vaz now saying this was more than naive, possibly incompetent.

Vaz now asking why Compton did not go to the Met first and check the leak?? before being compromised by the BBC. Compton saying that would force the reporter to publish(someone should explain that BBC would have to consider threatening a police investigation..)

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2014, 03:02:57 PM »
Crompton now being asked why cart before horse in Cliff case and not in Rolf Harris case ie search before arrest. Answer can not be given for operational reasons?

All relations between BBC and SYP now completely broken down with no contact.

Vaz confirms that Cliff R has written to committee and letter to be disclosed. I imagine is not postcard from Algarve!

Crompton now being asked about Danny Shore BBC reporting about SYP wanting massive coverage. He says that the original reporter Dan Johnson was disgusted with Danny Shore(oh dear!)

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2014, 03:18:53 PM »
Was the evidence found enough to justify the search? Crompton cannot comment for operational reasons.

He cannot also talk about legality of search warrent and does not seem to know if magistrate was informed that BBC would be televising...phew..

He cannot also say why he did not go high up in the BBC to ask them to lay off, because of reputational damage or miscarriage of justice issues. Surely that means that they SYP are very sure of their case against Cliff R? or they are just a bit daft? 

Vaz seems to think the latter.. and talking about gross incompetence.

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2014, 04:10:38 PM »
Hall and Harding and Munroe, head of Newsgathering  now explaining that they cannot disclose their source.

They say that they did not bully or blackmail SYP

Hall says not that many complaints and helicopter used because difficult to get shots on ground and part of usual coverage and they did not broadcast live footage until 4.30 that afternoon.

Hall says that they did not have the full story until the reporter spoke to SYP

Hall says was right to cover story in the way it was. At no point did SYP ask them to back off.

Hall says BBC contacted Cliff R before covering search or before broadcasting?

They are all now trying not to laugh about Crompton CC SYP's assertion that he was too scared to go to senior BBC staff because of what Leveson said!

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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2014, 04:20:39 PM »
Hall now defending morality of this and damage done to Cliff R. Hall says this was in the public interest and has nothing to do with Savile debacle. Harding says that there was no prob with not running story if SYP had gone to him.

Well smiles all around for BBC, Vaz has cleared them from any wrong doing.

BBC 10  South Yorks Police 0 (with tail between legs ordered to come back next week!)

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2014, 08:47:23 PM »
Thank you for this Tiger, I only caught snippets but it certainly appears for now that certain elements of the Keystone South Yorkshire Police have once again behaved in a mind boggling manner and Vaz on behalf of the committee was happy to clear the BBC on this one.

Do have to say their were a couple of the committee members who seemed away with fairies.  Is that Ian Austin tweeting behind Paul Flynn as he puts questions to the BBC reps?  Odd, as during his questions it became apparent he hadn't read his notes and was unaware of the communications from Cliff's lawyers.



So we await the texts and emails now.

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2014, 09:00:02 PM »
Whilst Professor Stuart Purvis has been writing about the loose ends of the BBC/South Yorkshire Police scuffles a tip of the hat should go to Bill Rogers for his wry imaginings of the conversation between the BBC Journo and the SYP Press Office...

South Yorks Police press: Hello, hello.

BBC hack: Sir Cliff Richard ?

SYPP: Oh, that's it, is it ? Effin' brilliant. Months and months of painstaking detective work down the drain. You've no idea how many Richards there are in the phone book. Our brightest track him down, and you ring up, pretending it's out of the blue, and start pulling the whole house down. This was our biggie; this was turn round time for SYP, and you come clod-hopping in with your chinos and iPad. Well, let me tell you, sonny, if you and your so-called multimedia journalism tools breathe a word of this...

BBC hack: OK, No problem.

SYPP: OK ? No problem ? I've been threatened by some real hardfaces in the past, but that just about takes the biscuit. No problem ? I put the phone down, and Sophie starts flashing. (Off mike - Connie, turn off that racing and find the BBC). Huw's already rolling his Rs round Richard for the evening-all shows, and there'll be Summer Holiday playing out Newsnight Confidential. (It's somewhere in the high numbers near Sky. The remote's in the pie drawer). I understand your ruthless 24-hour news machine; we've been on courses here you know. Before you know it, those gonzos at World Service will have half the Algarve setting fire to their floppies up the fincas.

BBC hack: OK, I'll leave it there...

SYPP: Leave it ? Leave it ? OK, look tough guy, we'll do a deal. I'll send you an interesting post-code, and the SYPP Bumper Book of Unmarked Cars; you wait for a text and a time. Mellors has signed up for a Google Earth course, so we'll have some images by the end of the week. But I'm warning you, you go early on this, and Crompton will have you. No votes in the Sam Smith Young Journalist of The Year for you this time round.

BBC hack: Thanks, that's great. We were only told to ring up and say Cliff Richard. I didn't mean to cause you any trouble Seth.

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2014, 10:24:33 PM »
Yes, was a bit like that!

However, Mr Purvis may have something?

DCMS have yet to publish all evidence, because of need to redact. But it seems SYP are fairly clear that the BBC had the full story before going to SYP press office. All in an email apparently . That would be awkward then? Esp for Vaz who cleared the BBC, without doubt. And with some smarm. That smarm is evident in his reply to Crompton after seeing email.

Letter from CRs lawyers confirm that there was no contact from SYP or the BBC about the search in advance. We are told by Hall that the BBC contacted CR so that must have been after 9.30 and before 1pm on the search day having already started filming. That is a very small window for narrative? I am making no comment about the wider issues and it may have been necessary, but it makes me very uneasy that an investigation starts in this way. I think we need to see a serious arrest to justify this?

http://data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/home-affairs-committee/police-the-media-and-highprofile-criminal-investigations/written/12150.pdf
« Last Edit: September 03, 2014, 10:59:53 PM by Tiger »

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2014, 10:56:15 PM »
Yes, was a bit like that!

However, Mr Purvis may have something?

DCMS have yet to publish all evidence, because of need to redact. But it seems SYP are fairly clear that the BBC had the full story before going to SYP press office. All in an email apparently . That would be awkward then? Esp for Vaz who cleared the BBC, without doubt. And with some smarm. That smarm is evident in his reply to Compton after seeing email.

http://data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/home-affairs-committee/police-the-media-and-highprofile-criminal-investigations/written/12150.pdf


Absolutely Tiger, deeply concerning for all concerned, the committee included, why on earth they don't consider to request such evidence up front is odd.  Of course on the cover-up chart you'd have to say South Yorkshire Police have a pretty strong record in evidence tampering - not that I'd wish to smear a whole force of course - so we'll have to await the redactions and reactions.

None of this is good though.

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2014, 12:23:41 AM »
Quick update.

Just to report that despite deadlines being placed. Keith Vaz and committee have not posted evidence that they requested or explanation why it is not published.

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2014, 08:52:40 PM »
Quick update.

Just to report that despite deadlines being placed. Keith Vaz and committee have not posted evidence that they requested or explanation why it is not published.


The evidence now appears to have been published - of course it's not been ordered so make take a bit of reading, lots of mentions of Yewtree though.

The link is below, it is password protected, the password is HASC1234

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/home-affairs/140906%20CC%20Crompton%20Redacted.pdf

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2015, 08:12:30 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30747823

WELL, WHAT HAVE WE HERE? Seems that at   BBC Towers Nothing Is OF any value, unless it has been through a committee hearing? Defiance or just plain stupid?

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Re: Cliff Richard reporting
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2015, 06:06:16 PM »
Anyone else hearing the irony klaxon?

Is this sending a balloon up?  Or a helicopter perhaps?

The the 2013 'scoop of the year' award went to ITV's expose of Jimmy Savile.



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