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Charlie Chaplin & Jimmy Savile
Tiger:
Yes, this story should be proved to either be a story or something that needs to be investigated, otherwise the rumours will become reality.
And it must be very clear that the Telegraph is only responding to leaks from some fairly trustworthy BBC sources.
News Mutt:
--- Quote from: Tiger on February 14, 2012, 11:21:34 PM ---
And it must be very clear that the Telegraph is only responding to leaks from some fairly trustworthy BBC sources.
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How do you know that the sources are trustworthy?
Let me put this into context. I find stories all the time in my line of work, and when they are spiked by my bosses I sometimes get pretty upset about it. I might discuss it with colleagues or friends in other sections of the media - and yes, occasionally I have suggested that the story is worthy of further investigation - if only I had the time and resources to do so.
But that's quite different from what appears to have happened here - a leak specifically about the reasons for dropping a big story. What did the BBC insider here have to gain, other than making the Corporation look weak?
darcysarto:
--- Quote from: News Mutt on February 15, 2012, 05:02:04 PM ---
How do you know that the sources are trustworthy?
Let me put this into context. I find stories all the time in my line of work, and when they are spiked by my bosses I sometimes get pretty upset about it. I might discuss it with colleagues or friends in other sections of the media - and yes, occasionally I have suggested that the story is worthy of further investigation - if only I had the time and resources to do so.
But that's quite different from what appears to have happened here - a leak specifically about the reasons for dropping a big story. What did the BBC insider here have to gain, other than making the Corporation look weak?
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Well I think the facts are that there was an investigation and it was dropped, I don't think anyone is contending that? You only need to google Jimmy Savile to see there is an amount of speculative comment out there...
One of the reasons I quoted the Chaplin reference when I started this thread was to demonstrate that no matter how outlandish a story may be, the BBC is possibly the most trusted news organisation on the globe. If I had quoted the Chaplin tale and linked to any other source they may still be doubt in the mind of anyone reading it. The BBC has the trust of it's consumers and a story like this is always going to raise questions and rightly so.
darcysarto:
Much respect to Liz Green on BBC Leeds who raised this subject on her show yesterday after it appeared in some of the tabloids. She spoke with a lady who, in her early twenties had had a rather unsavoury meeting with Mr. Saville, who turned very nasty when she made it clear she didn't want to sleep with him. Knowing the devotion of some to Sir Jimmy up in Yorkshire, it was a brave phone-in to host and indeed Liz had a number of calls from those devoted to him, seemingly some of them are still living in the 1970’s. Worth a listen if you are unsure of how ‘red blooded males’ should be behaving and how stupid the aforementioned young lady was for trusting someone who she believed to be a decent human being.
Perhaps the curious attitude of some towards being open to the truth is ably demonstrated by this (genuine) contribution from the Daily Mail website.
--- Quote ---What ever jimmy might or might not have done in his life, he made up for anything by all his charity work and the people he helped, its totaly wrong to drag up stories like this, when the man his dead and can,t defend his self. Obviously some sleaze or sleaze,s are making money out off this.
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One assumes these must have been the thoughts (and punctuation?) of the Newsnight producer too then, when they decide to drop their investigation.
Perhaps, although Surrey Police investigated similar claims in 2007.
All very strange.
darcysarto:
Looks like ITV have decided to pick up the Jimmy Savile allegations and run with them...
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-09-20/itv-to-screen-documentary-claiming-jimmy-savile-sexually-assaulted-teenage-girls
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ITV has confirmed it is to screen a documentary featuring claims that former Top of the Pops host Jimmy Savile sexually assaulted teenage girls during his time as one of TV's most popular figures.
RadioTimes.com understands a number of women have been interviewed for the programme, each alleging that as under-age teenagers they were abused by Savile during the 1970s.
A channel spokesman said the programme was still being edited and declined to comment on reports that the alleged assaults - said to range from indecency to unlawful sex – involved girls as young as 13.
The programme - part of ITV's documentary strand Exposure - is due to be broadcast on 3 October, three weeks before the first anniversary of the former DJ and charity worker's death.
Former police detective and child protection expert Mark Williams-Thomas conducts the programme's investigation. He also presents the channel's criminal chasing series On the Run.
Savile's friends and family have previously dismissed claims he was a sexual predator. Howard Silverman, a friend of 40 years, has said that suggestions of abuse are nonsense.
"Of course we would go out in the 1970s and chat women up but everyone did that at the time, we were single guys and having a good time. But none of the girls were ever unwilling and they were definitely never underage. Jimmy hated anything like that."
Savile, who died last year aged 84, began broadcasting in 1958 on Radio Luxembourg. In 1964 he presented the first edition of BBC chart show Top of the Pops, beginning a career at the BBC which included work as a Radio 1 DJ and as host of long-running television programme Jim’ll Fix It. His considerable charity work during his life is estimated to have raised some £40m for good causes and earned him a knighthood in 1990.
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