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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2013, 10:16:29 PM »
This was the top story on BBC London this morning prior to the numbing NHS revelations.

Two men have been arrested, one a Catholic priest the other an employee of Richmond council and former deputy head of Grafton Close Childrens Care Home.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21349730

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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2013, 10:42:42 PM »
We know, Darcy, that there is a truly horrific story here.

It is the tip of an iceberg.

Just hope that the press and the BBC(post Savile and post Leveson) get over that and report as they should, for the sake of the victims and importantly that powerful people should not be allowed to abuse trust and get away with it. They must be exposed, whatever it takes. 

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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2013, 08:15:11 PM »
This story is not going away thanks to the likes of David Hencke and Exaro.

http://davidhencke.wordpress.com/2013/02/11/see-no-evilhear-no-evil-speak-no-evil-richmonds-amnesia-on-child-abuse/

As well as this, bizarrely the mainstream press charge is being lead by the People and the Star who had reports over the weekend detailing the loss of a dossier handed to Leon Brittan by MP Clive Dickens a couple of decades past.

Lots of people losing things and forgetting stuff...

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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2013, 11:05:10 PM »
A comment by David Hencke in reply to a comment on his blog. http://davidhencke.wordpress.com/

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David the BBC are very nervous after the MacAlpine affair though this has nothing to do with it - and are monitoring everything but so far dare not publish. Youll also notice that my old paper The Guardian are steering well clear of this too. The only two papers that have had the guts to stick their heads above the parapet are the Sunday People and the Mail.

These are today's Exaro pieces in the People:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/elm-guest-house-boy-brothel-1713966

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/former-tory-faces-child-sex-1714162

David say's in this piece http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4857/analysis-public-should-know-truth-about-vip-paedophile-ring that he has been wanting to write this story for five years and cites Tom Watson's bravery and the Savile revelations for opening the door.

There can be little doubt that some wanted that door kept firmly shut.

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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2013, 11:47:07 PM »
Again. it has to be said that there is a need for full and transparent reporting in all the media.

It is most certainly in the public interest and I am sure Lord Leveson would agree.

The very worst thing would be if there is now a further cover up of a cover up!

At the end of the day, the press and the BBC exists to spread news such as this. NO ONE ever asked it to hack phones of celebrities and create a boring culture of wanting to know stupid non stuff about people who are unelected!


Journalists have got to show what they can do right, with bravery and no apologies.


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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2013, 09:13:51 PM »
You do have to wonder at the world when it becomes reassuring that former BBC Surrey regular guest, Mark Williams-Thomas gets involved in something but...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jimmy-savile-investigator-offers-to-help-round-up-1980s-paedophile-ring-8531705.html

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Mark Williams-Thomas, the child protection expert who exposed Jimmy Savile, has offered to help catch an alleged establishment paedophile ring that used its connections to escape justice decades ago.

The former police officer who researched and presented ITVs documentary on the dark side of the BBC star said that victims reluctant to report the abuse they experienced at Elm Guest House in London could contact him directly. Mr Williams-Thomas said he would consider making a documentary about the case if a new police inquiry, Operation Fernbridge, turned out to be unsuccessful.

He stressed that he had 100 per cent faith in the inquiry into claims that children in care were abused at the property in Rocks Lane, Barnes, in the early 1980s by powerful figures from across public life.

But he urged anyone who felt able to report their experiences to come forward, saying it was crucial for Scotland Yard to collect more evidence before making any further arrests.

He also divulged that he had already passed evidence to the police about the case, adding that the stories he was hearing about it were horrendous.

In an interview with The Independent, Mr Williams-Thomas said: If you dont feel confident talking to the police, then tell me, because when I tell the police your information will be acted upon.

He spoke with approval of the landslide in the response to child sexual abuse which followed the screening last October of Exposure: the Other Side of Jimmy Savile, which exposed the late TV presenter and disc jockey as an opportunistic sexual predator.

As a result of Operation Yewtree, the inquiry set up by the Metropolitan Police into Saviles offending, several of his showbusiness contemporaries have been arrested for suspected sex offences. And Keir Starmer, the Director of Public Prosecutions, has recently announced guidelines to ensure the authorities respond more sympathetically to those who report child sexual abuse.

A previous police investigation of Elm Guest House in the early 1980s was reportedly closed because of the power of the alleged perpetrators.

Some commentators have expressed frustration that Operation Fernbridge has so far made only two arrests. Tony McSweeney, a 66-year-old Catholic priest from Norfolk, and John Stingemore, 70, a former care home worker, from St Leonards-On-Sea, east Sussex, were held last month. Mr Williams-Thomas said the police needed to glean as much evidence as they could before making further arrests.

I have 100 per cent faith in the Metropolitan Police and the guys who are leading it. They will not stop. They will turn over the stone, he said.

He said: Whats really important is to get people who are victims of sexual abuse to report. I have heard some very sad stories and some amazing stuff that, if true, is horrendous but the problem is youre hearing it third or fourth hand.



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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2013, 11:30:36 PM »
Now in the context of Leveson perhaps this is an even more interesting front page from tomorrows Times than it might normally be.  If that was possible.


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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2013, 09:09:49 PM »
For those interested in news the Exaro website http://www.exaronews.com/ is now completely free to access and read and is an excellent and reliable source.

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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2013, 06:12:50 PM »
This story has been rumbling along quietly and this weekend sees more new developments as strands are unravelled.

Government 'gave money to child sex ring in 70s': Home Office has ordered an investigation into shocking allegations

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Labour MP Tom Watson says a retired Home Office employee told him he had raised concerns in the 1970s about the funding, but was warned to drop the matter.

Mr Watson told The Mail on Sunday last night: 'We are lifting the lid on a murky period in political history. It feels as if we are getting closer to getting the answers that many people have been looking for for a long time.  People will be astounded if we discover that a Government of any political hue was funding the PIE.' (Paedophile Information Exchange)'


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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2014, 09:26:07 PM »
Met's 'VIP paedophiles' probe turns into murder investigation | ExaroNews

Well done to Exaro for their continued and dogged interest.

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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2014, 09:58:38 PM »
We've mentioned Max Clifford in association with this thread before given the current court case and the opening day's prosecution evidence one can't help mulling over what can of worms could be opened by the eventual verdict.

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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2014, 12:07:30 AM »
I do not know Darcy? If we live in a correct society where justice is done, then why do we have a judge led inquiry into Stephen Lawrence and the police, again!

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/06/stephen-lawrence-theresa-may-inquiry-police

 Operation Fernbridge was launched quite a long time ago now and there have been no arrests despite compelling evidence of very serious abuse of children by men in very powerful jobs, that includes government.  Do we trust the Met to deal with this? Do we now trust the police?

This article from the Indie a year ago is worth revisiting

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tory-mp-warned-of-powerful-paedophile-ring-30-years-ago-8507780.html


As to Max Clifford, he is a very powerful man, or should that be was.....

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Re: Was There A Paedophile Ring In No 10 Asks MP Tom Watson
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2014, 10:36:52 PM »
We've mentioned Max Clifford in association with this thread before given the current court case and the opening day's prosecution evidence one can't help mulling over what can of worms could be opened by the eventual verdict.

Well after the verdict today with the sentencing on Friday hopefully these days will give those who were brave enough to report his crimes some closure.

I can't say I've followed the whole trial closely, although some of what I've heard and read has been pretty repulsive,  perhaps this article gives a measure of the person.  How PR guru tried to spin his own trial


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